How to Have a Healthier Relationship With Money

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Lindsay Bryan-Podvin on Financial Anxiety

If you’ve ever worried about money, this week’s episode of Woman Worriers is for you. Host Elizabeth Cush welcomes financial therapist Lindsay Bryan-Podvin for a healing conversation about financial anxiety.

We have to stop shaming women for having money and for being proud of having money.
— Lindsay Bryan-Podvin

Show Notes:

Money, the song goes, makes the world go ‘round. So why do so many women struggle with it—talking about it, asking for it, being honest about spending it? Money is woven into so much of our lives and yet how often do we talk to our therapists about our money worries? Instead, we listen to the money stories we’ve learned and the mixed messages we get about women and money. This week, Woman Worriers podcast host Elizabeth Cush, LCPC, a licensed professional therapist and founder of Progression Counseling in Annapolis, Md., talks with Lindsay Bryan-Podvin, LMSW, a Michigan-based financial therapist, speaker and author, about the emotional and psychologist side of money. Listen to their insights about personal finance and mental health and how they intersect with race, gender—every aspect of our lives, and how women as individuals and as partners can learn to relate to money in a healthy and effective way.

Listen and learn:

  • What therapists learn about money

  • How even financially privileged people can struggle with money

  • Why you might get more help sharing your money worries with a financial therapist—and why they’re so hard to find

  •  What financial anxiety is and how it might show up in your life

  • The confusing dual messages that most women receive about managing money that make it so difficult to feel OK about what we’re doing

  • Why even women who are financially stable can feel guilty about spending money on themselves

  • Why many women avoid talking with their partners about money—and how doing so can deepen the relationship

  • How to have healthy and productive conversations about money with your partner

  • How to shift our view of having money from shame to an opportunity for service and facilitating the change that’s important to us

  • How a therapist can help if you learn a coworker is earning more than you do for the same job

  • How a therapist might help you navigate the awkwardness, guilt and shame of having more money than others in your life

  • How the pandemic has shined a light on the value of women in the workforce—especially those in the helping fields

  • Why you need to include your partner in financial therapy

  • Four broad topic areas for you and your partner to explore—and why you don’t want to tackle them all at once

  • How to open the door to a money conversation without triggers

  • How to know it’s time to pause or end the money talk—or any other conversation

  • How to get a free training program on values-based spending and saving

  • The best way to buy Lindsay Bryan-Podvin’s Financial Anxiety Solution workbook


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